==Phrack Inc.== Volume Two, Issue Ten, Phile #6 of 9 -#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#- ! ! # Hacking Primos Part I # ! ! # By Evil Jay # ! ! # Phone Phreakers of America # ! ! # (C) 1986-87 # ! ! -#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#- Author Note: I should begin by saying that there are other files out there about hacking Primos, one written recently, that basically tell you nothing at all as far as in-depth Primos is concerned. Those files should be deleted and this put in its place. This is the first in many files on Primos, and I will go into many topics, such as the on-line network, the different subsystems and other subjects. Hope you enjoy! *** Gaining Entry Part 1 *** Gaining entry, as always, is the hardest part. When you call a Primos system it will connect with something like this: PRIMENET 19.2.7F PPOA1 If it doesn't give a welcome msg like above trying typing something like "XXZZZUUU" and hit return and it should come back with: Invalid command "XXZZZUUU". (logo$cp) Login please. ER! To login you type: LOGIN Or Just: LOGIN (Then it will ask for your "User ID?") User ids differ from system to system but there are ALWAYS default accounts to try. For "User ID?" try... SYSTEM (This is the operators account and with it you can usually do anything.) LIB DOS After you enter your User ID it will prompt you with: Password? This is of course, where you enter your password. For SYSTEM try... SYSTEM SYSMAN NETLINK PRIMENET MANAGER OPERATOR And anything else you can think of. These are just common passwords to these defaults. For LIB try... LIBRARY SYSLIB LIB SYSTEM For DOS try... DOS SYSDOS SYSTEM Etc...Just use your brain. *Older Versions* On older versions of Primos, 18 and below, you could enter one of the system defaults above and hit CTRL-C once or twice for the password and it would drop you into the system. Whether this is a bug or intentional I don't really have any idea. But it does work sometimes. To see what ver of Primos your trying to logon to just look at the welcome message when you logon: PRIMENET 19.2.7F PPOA1 19 is the version number. So thus, if you were logging on to this particular Prime you would NOT be able to use the above mentioned bug/default-password. By the way, if you do not know what version it is (because it did not give you a welcome msg when you connected...try to do the above mentioned anyway.) Now, if it says: Invalid user id or password; please try again. Then you must try a different password. Notice, that the system informs you that either the User ID, the password or both are wrong. Don't worry about this...just hack the defaults. There have been a lot of rumors spreading around about common defaults such as: PHANTOM, PRIMOS, PRIME & FAM, but I believe this to be a load of shit. I have never seen a system with these defaults on them. But, as far as PRIMOS and PRIME go, these are sometimes common accounts but I really don't believe that they are defaults. Also try accounts like DEMO & GUEST. These are sometimes common accounts (but never very often). Primos does not have limited commands before logon such as Tops 20 and DEC. So hacking a Primos is really nothing but taking a guess. ** No passwords ** Some users have been known to use a carriage return for their password which in other words means, once you enter your user id, your logged in without having to enter a password. Sometimes, these are default passwords assigned by the system operator, but that is rare. If you can get the format (perhaps you already have any account) for the regular user id's, then try passwords like: NETLINK SYSTEM PRIME PRIMENET PRIMOS And other typical user passwords like sex, hot, love...etc. Most female users that I have talked to on a local university prime all seem to have picked account that have something to do with sex...sex being the most popular. ** The Format ** The format for a user id can be just about ANYTHING the operators or system owners want...and they are usually random looking things that make no sense. They can be a combination of numbers, numbers and I am almost sure CTRL characters can be used. Lower & Upper case do not matter...the system, changes all lower case entry to upper case. Passwords can be anything up to 16 characters in length. ** Your In! ** If you get a valid ID/Password you will see something like this: PPOA1 (user 39) logged in Monday, 15 Dec 86 02:29:16. Welcome to PRIMOS version 19.4.9. Last login Friday, 12 Dec 86 08:29:04. Congratulate yourself, you just did something that should be called something of an achievement! The next part will deal with very basic commands for beginners. I would like to end this part with a few more words. Yes, Primos is hard to hack, but given the time and patience almost every system has those basic demo accounts and CAN be hacked. Most hackers tend to stay away from Primes, little knowing that Primos is a system that is very entertaining and certainly kept me up late hours of the night. Have fun and keep on hacking. If you have any questions or comments, or I have made some sort of error, by all means get in touch with me at whatever system you have seen me on... ** Now For The Good Shit ** This part was originally going to be a beginners introduction to commands on a Primos system. Instead I decided to write a part which should help ANYONE with a low level account gain system access. I would also like to thank PHRACK Inc. on the wonderful job they are doing...without PHRACK I don't really know for sure how I would have distributed my files. Oh yes, I know of all the other newsletters and the like, but with PHRACK it was only a matter of getting a hold of one of the people in charge, which is a simple matter since their mailbox number is widely known to the hack/phreak community. I would also like to encourage boards of this nature to support PHRACK fully, and I would also like to congratulate you guys, once again, for the great job your doing. Now, on with the file. ** Stuff You Should Know ** The explanation I am going to (try to) explain will NOT work all the time... probably 60% of the time. Since I discovered this, or at least was the first to put it in "print" I would at least ask those system operators out there to keep my credits and the credits of my group in this file. ** Some More Stuff ** First, this is not exactly a "novice"-friendly file. You should be familiar with the ATTACH and SLIST commands before proceeding. They are quite easy to learn, and it is really not required to use this file, but just the same, these are important commands in learning the Primos system so you should at least be familiar with them. To get help on them type: HELP SLIST or HELP ATTACH You should also play with the commands until you know all of their uses. ** Okay, Here We Go ** This file is not going to explain everything I do. I'm just going to show you how to get SYS1 privileged accounts. First, log on to your low access account. Type: ATTACH MFD Then get a DIR using: LD Okay, your now seeing a dir with a lot of sub-directories. The only files that should be in the main directory (most of the time) are BOOT and SYS1. Ignore these...look for a file called CCUTIL or something with the word UTILITY or UTIL or UTILITIES...something that looks like UTILITY... Okay, ATTACH to that directory with: ATTACH Now, do an LD again and look at the files. Now, here is the part that is really random. Since not every PRIME system will have the same UTILITY programs, just look at any that have an extension ".CPL". There might be one called USRLST.CPL. Type: SLIST USRLST Okay, it should be printing a whole bunch of bullshit. Now in this program there SHOULD be a line that looks like the following: A CCUTIL X Now, CCUTIL is the name of the dir you are on so I have to point out that CCUTIL WILL NOT ALWAYS BE THE NAME OF THAT UTILITY DIRECTORY. So if the name of the UTILITY directory you are on is called UTILITY then the line will look like this: A UTILITY X Now, the X is the PASSWORD OF THAT DIRECTORY. AGAIN, IT CAN BE ANYTHING. The password may be UTILITY which means it will look like this: A UTILITY UTILITY Or the password may be SECRET. So: A UTILITY SECRET Pat yourself on the ass...you know have SYS1 access. Log back in with the LOGIN command (or if it doesn't work just LOGOUT and LOGIN again). Enter UTILITY or CCUTIL (or WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE DIRECTORY WAS) as the user id. Then for the password just enter the password. If this doesn't work, then what you will have to do is try out other sub-directories from the MFD directory. Then SLIST other programs with the extension. In one of my other PRIME files I will fully explain what I have just done and other ways to get the directories/ids password. Now, if you don't see any line in the program like: S Then list other programs in the utility program or try other directories. I have gained SYS1 access like this 60% of them time. And NOT ALWAYS ON THE UTILITY DIRECTORY. That is about it for this file. Stay tuned for a future PHRACK issue with another PRIME file from me. If I don't change my mind again, the next file will deal with basic commands for beginners. -#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#- ! ! # This Has Been An: # ! ! # Evil Jay Presentation # ! ! # Phone Phreaks of America # ! ! # (C) 1986-87 # ! ! -#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-