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Current issue : #65 | Release date : 11/04/2008 | Editor : TCLH
Title : Introduction
==Phrack Inc.==
Volume 0x0c, Issue 0x41, Phile #0x01 of 0x0f
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|=--------------------------=[ Introduction ]=---------------------------=|
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|=-------------------=[ By The Circle of Lost Hackers ]=-----------------=|
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Welcome back.
Another year has passed, another PHRACK issue is out, PHRACK65.
Every time somebody gives me a present I end up thinking to the story of
that gift. Where did it come from ? Who worked on it ? Did who worked on
it ever thought that his work would have end up in my hands ?
What about a PHRACK issue ?
PHRACK comes from the underground, the underground worked on it, submitting
papers, sending feedback, commenting, spending long night chatting,
reading, BREATHING. Does the underground still breath ?
Things change, panta rei. As hackers, we have fun. We want fun. Hacking is
fun. You know it because you did it, because you spent nights and nights on
this fucking fun, going to sleep at 6 a.m. and waking up three hours later
to present your face at school or work, with your brain still back home on
your encrypted work. Are you still having fun ?
Please, don't take it personally, don't over-react. It's just a question.
A question that everybody should pose to themselves every single day, no
matter what he is doing. FUN is not only PAYBACK. We are human, we love
receiving congrats, who doesn't ? We LOVE seeing our little work spread
around. We love the clap-clap-clap sound. But does it really boil down only
to that ?
When you lose fun and start doing things only for the payback, you're dead.
Everyone of you who experienced a bad job or a bad exam topic knows the
feeling of "wasting time on useless things" that pops out in those moments.
But, most of the time, you _HAVE TO_ do it.
Well, nobody _HAS TO DO_ hacking. Nobody.
If you are only doing that for a payback, than you are a DEAD hacker.
If you are only doing that to present a paper to a conference, to see your
name somewhere, than you are a DEAD hacker.
It will work. You don't need fun to be skilled, you don't even need to be
skilled to post or to go to a conference, there are so many around that
everybody has some hole to fix. But your touch with the underground is
gone. Your responsibility towards friends, ideas, codes will slowly fade
away. HACKING is also responsibility and FUN is the only way to not feel
its pressure
You might disagree, just post on your idea. Maybe it is a too dark
scenario, maybe it is just a spring blues, maybe I am just pessimistic, but
this is the feeling. This is money taking over everywhere, this is seeing
more and more things done only for the payback.
This is seeing the underground heart beating slower and slower.
PHRACK is just an example of what the underground has been able to do. Of
what we can do. But so many hackers out there are capable of disrupting the
system without having to read or write a magazine like we do. We are
entering into a period where Government and Politics are trying to control
technology with supposed-anti-terrorism laws. And they don't lack money
or good congrats.
So please, please, help this fucking heart beating faster, pushing blood
around. Please HAVE FUN.
This is the 65th edition of Phrack and we are still alive. Despite that
some people say they don't learn anything when reading phrack we still
think that Phrack is one of the best underground communication methods. Oh
well, for sure, there are other and even better ways. But Phrack is one way
and probably not the worse. We have tried to release this issue earlier but
editing a magazine (and especially Phrack) is not easy. We have received a
lot of positive comments after Phrack release #64 and a lot of people said
they will contribute. However we did not see anything coming. Almost all
articles from this release are coming from our first circle of friends.
Again.
This release, despite that it is not the perfect one, tries to bring
a good mix between technical articles and what we call spirit articles. Our
introducing and concluding articles (Phrack Prophile and The Underground
Myth) bring two opposite visions of the hacking underground.
Contradiction? No. Freedom of speech.
We have kept with our regular columns Phrack World News and International
Scenes. We also have decided to publish less exploit articles. However,
low-level hackers should find their way easily into this new release.
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For this issue, we are bringing you the following :
0x01 Introduction TCLH
0x02 Phrack Prophile of The UNIX Terrorist TCLH
0x03 Phrack World News TCLH
0x04 Stealth Hooking: another way to subvert the Windows kernel mxatone
ivanlefou
0x05 Clawing holes in NAT with UPnP felinemenace
0x06 The only laws on Internet are assembly and RFCs Julia
0x07 Hacking the System Management Mode BSDaemon, coideloko, d0nand0n
0x08 Mystifying the debugger for ultimate stealthness halfdead
0x09 Australian Restricted Defense Networks and FISSO The Finn
0x0a Phook - The PEB Hooker shearer & dreg
0x0b Hacking the $49 Wifi Finder openschemes
0x0c The art of exploitation: Samba WINS stack overflow max_packetz
0x0d The Underground Myth anonymous
0x0e Hacking your brain: Artificial Conciousness -C
0x0f International scenes various
Windows stealth hooking article brings a deep analysis of the XP kernel
internals by presenting two sophisticated backdooring techniques. It is
generally hard to find valuable reverse engineering articles covering
*new* topics and satisfying our standards, but these guys have made a great
job. Make sure also to check out the PEB Hooker and the full published
source code if M$ software reversing is your thing. Both of those articles
will bring you a very good read.
Felinemenace is featured again and brings you one of their latest hacks on
more recent network protocols. Our second network article digs into FISSO
by introducing not-so-public information about australian restricted
networks.
As we continue to care about cryptography, Phrack #65 includes a useful
cryptographic concept of deniable encryption, a particulary relevant topic
for hackers. Check out Julia's article for all details.
As mentioned, we have tried to bring you the best low-level hacking around.
Articles such as Hacking the System Management Mode, Hacking the $49 Wifi
Finder, Mystifying the debugger, are not really 0day for those of you
already in the underground, but aim to bring you sufficiently material to
develop your creativity on that matter.
Finally, we could not release Phrack without at least one exploitation
article. Max Packets has done the job of describing step by step his
Samba WINS exploit. The information contained herein will certainly be
enough for those of you guys who want to develop their own.
Scene Shoutz:
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Again, Phrack #65 could not have happened without so many people. Thanks
to the admins, coders, hackers, scripterz.
Shouts : mauro, sysk, leandro, assad, kiwicon for an amazing conference
with a lot of original topics. As long as you stay a non profit event
Phrack will support you! We are also looking forward to the next BACon in
september 2008. Shouts to all south american hackers & expats.
No shouts: All supposed "Underground people" who asked us million
times when Phrack will be out but never contribute to the magazine. If
you guys were a little more productive perhaps Phrack would be released
more often. Also, we will -not- help poor indonesians bypassing
government's p0rn websites filters. Sorry taufiks1428@gmail.com.
Lames:
* cucamonga (xt@docking.gaykansascity.com) has joined #phrack
<el> why hasnt phrack65 been leaked yet
<vegas> probably coz i don't have it
<shiftee> probably cause nobody wants to read it
Phrack has not been leaked this time...sorry for that... probably because
shiftee needs to sharpen his hacking skills instead of posing on IRC. He
could also read Phrack, we will not deny his IP address. Any questions,
send us an email.
Flames: vegas (insecure wannabe), HDM (pwnie coward)
Enjoy the magazine!
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Comments :
We r BORRG, on July 17th 2009 at 1:59 am :
firstly, this is a great zine.
Syntax Shadow and ELEMENT, some n00bs know their place, not all of us want things handed to us.
we n00bs must start somewhere. why not here at phrack?
- as long as we study on our own and phrase questions properly, why shouldn't we hang around and pester you with our questions like aspiring 'kidd-ies"?
where's the dishonor in starting off as a script kiddie, working toward an advanced skill set, earned through intense study and application??
Herr Shroti and new comer, do your phracking home work.
Syntax Shadow and ELEMENT, some n00bs know their place, not all of us want things handed to us.
we n00bs must start somewhere. why not here at phrack?
- as long as we study on our own and phrase questions properly, why shouldn't we hang around and pester you with our questions like aspiring 'kidd-ies"?
where's the dishonor in starting off as a script kiddie, working toward an advanced skill set, earned through intense study and application??
Herr Shroti and new comer, do your phracking home work.
Idol, on April 25th 2009 at 9:18 am :
This realm is faltering. You got guys like shadow syntax and elementz talking about hacking and programming like they are shepards without sheep. How can you lead the flock if you have none? You should kiss the "noob's" feet that they even want to dine in your legacy...as if you even had one. Teach. Learn. Taste. Live. If all else fails...then die.
We are God.
We are God.
juio, on April 3th 2009 at 9:53 pm :
Yeah!
w00t, on March 31th 2009 at 9:51 am :
Yes it is!
rajeshkpy, on March 25th 2009 at 11:21 am :
For the wannabe hackers...
Introduction:
Its good to see, so many of us trying to be a hacker, and it is required..., as more hackers means more people to work for good and best softwares (testing including..)...[and not to crack/steal/damage properties around ;)]...you know what, i consider the word "Hacker" as a relative term and not a absolute title like black belt in judo or the president of US for that matter.
Each and every one of us who are working with softwares are hackers to some degree(1% ok .1%), so we should try to improve ourselves by assimilating knowledge by whatever means possible, like reading stuff, written by fellow hacker "gurus", like 'minix'/'linux' anything... and their kernel and codes..., and afterwards you can start contributing for GNU/Linux et al, and there are lot of work that requires to be done for making good software available for our brethren who can then use it and later contribute it, Yes..we need a lot of "Hacker contributers".
Welcome to this world of "wannabe hackers"......All the best.
Introduction:
Its good to see, so many of us trying to be a hacker, and it is required..., as more hackers means more people to work for good and best softwares (testing including..)...[and not to crack/steal/damage properties around ;)]...you know what, i consider the word "Hacker" as a relative term and not a absolute title like black belt in judo or the president of US for that matter.
Each and every one of us who are working with softwares are hackers to some degree(1% ok .1%), so we should try to improve ourselves by assimilating knowledge by whatever means possible, like reading stuff, written by fellow hacker "gurus", like 'minix'/'linux' anything... and their kernel and codes..., and afterwards you can start contributing for GNU/Linux et al, and there are lot of work that requires to be done for making good software available for our brethren who can then use it and later contribute it, Yes..we need a lot of "Hacker contributers".
Welcome to this world of "wannabe hackers"......All the best.
phetips, on March 5th 2009 at 1:11 am :
I have some things to say in response to the comments from Syntax Shadow and ELEMENT, and also some things mentioned in #65's introduction.
I think it is important to recognize that 'the hacker spirit', so to say, has multiple sides. Of course there is the very obvious love for all things technical. The before mentioned "fun" in learning technical details and the things this new acquired knowledge brings forth. Hacking is discovering. But the way I see it, this discovery overlaps greatly in other parts of human society; not just technology.
These youngsters who you are flaming here, they're new to the world and they feel a certain affinity for the culture on display in these magazines. Perhaps they are 'discovering' a world here, and maybe even a part of themselves they never knew of.
They often seem overly ecstatic ("This is sooo greaat, you guyz are teh shieetz. I want to become the best haxckar ever. where to download toolz").
They come across this culture and they are having fun discovering it. Isn't this exactly what this introduction advocates?
Now of course, they have a disproportionate view on things. They just need some guidance. They have some very important qualities already: they are eager to learn, and they are drawn to the culture. The latter probably has something to do with personality. Not everyone is drawn to hacking (and we geeks tend to forget that). This is the other side of the hacker spirit I mentioned earlier. I don't think I have to define these personal qualities here, I assume we can all come up with some.
Now what you are doing Syntax Shadow, is saying that to fit in here you 'have' to be able to program. You mention programming as a skill they _have to_ acquire to be able to participate and have fun discovering. But if you think about it, programming languages are just one of the things to explore in computer technology.
This is exactly what this article states as the reason of the underground bleeding to 'death'. I agree with this point of view very much. I think we cannot complain about the spirit disappearing if we forget how much fun these newbies are having reading about trojans in 'hacking for dummies'. Of course this knowledge is not as sophisticated as the knowledge exposed in these Phrack magazines. But they are learning new things and they are having fun doing it.
They'll get there. They'll have FUN. They'll acquire some wisdom and knowledge over the years. And when they do, I hope they will not flame newcomers like they are being flamed all over the scene (yeah I said the 's' word) now.
Please, if you care about hacking in the long run, guide them.
I think it is important to recognize that 'the hacker spirit', so to say, has multiple sides. Of course there is the very obvious love for all things technical. The before mentioned "fun" in learning technical details and the things this new acquired knowledge brings forth. Hacking is discovering. But the way I see it, this discovery overlaps greatly in other parts of human society; not just technology.
These youngsters who you are flaming here, they're new to the world and they feel a certain affinity for the culture on display in these magazines. Perhaps they are 'discovering' a world here, and maybe even a part of themselves they never knew of.
They often seem overly ecstatic ("This is sooo greaat, you guyz are teh shieetz. I want to become the best haxckar ever. where to download toolz").
They come across this culture and they are having fun discovering it. Isn't this exactly what this introduction advocates?
Now of course, they have a disproportionate view on things. They just need some guidance. They have some very important qualities already: they are eager to learn, and they are drawn to the culture. The latter probably has something to do with personality. Not everyone is drawn to hacking (and we geeks tend to forget that). This is the other side of the hacker spirit I mentioned earlier. I don't think I have to define these personal qualities here, I assume we can all come up with some.
Now what you are doing Syntax Shadow, is saying that to fit in here you 'have' to be able to program. You mention programming as a skill they _have to_ acquire to be able to participate and have fun discovering. But if you think about it, programming languages are just one of the things to explore in computer technology.
This is exactly what this article states as the reason of the underground bleeding to 'death'. I agree with this point of view very much. I think we cannot complain about the spirit disappearing if we forget how much fun these newbies are having reading about trojans in 'hacking for dummies'. Of course this knowledge is not as sophisticated as the knowledge exposed in these Phrack magazines. But they are learning new things and they are having fun doing it.
They'll get there. They'll have FUN. They'll acquire some wisdom and knowledge over the years. And when they do, I hope they will not flame newcomers like they are being flamed all over the scene (yeah I said the 's' word) now.
Please, if you care about hacking in the long run, guide them.
DeadH, on February 23th 2009 at 6:33 am :
We have to start somewhere, us Script Kiddies. We need somewhere to open our eyes and show us the FUN in things. So why not here. I get many of us probably should shut up and not comment, but others only want to learn so we ask questions. I agree Syntax, programming is something one should know but even then. To Hack, one must open their eyes first.
Syntax Shadow, on February 15th 2009 at 12:34 pm :
I agree with 'ELEMENT', Half the people who read Phrack probably don't understand any of it.
So they make pointless comments like "plez teach me to haxx".
If your one of those Script Kiddies reading this, Do us all a favour and stop commenting.
Atleast learn how to program fluently before you actually bother learning how to 'Hack'.
You wont get anywhere significant otherwise.
And for the heads up, Programming isn't easy either.
I would say that to learn programming fully, It would take your entire life..
Start off with things like Python, then work up to C++/C, Then go into advanced things like ASM.
There, Now PLEASE,
Go away from this website.
-Syntax Shadow
So they make pointless comments like "plez teach me to haxx".
If your one of those Script Kiddies reading this, Do us all a favour and stop commenting.
Atleast learn how to program fluently before you actually bother learning how to 'Hack'.
You wont get anywhere significant otherwise.
And for the heads up, Programming isn't easy either.
I would say that to learn programming fully, It would take your entire life..
Start off with things like Python, then work up to C++/C, Then go into advanced things like ASM.
There, Now PLEASE,
Go away from this website.
-Syntax Shadow
ELEMENT, on February 7th 2009 at 6:10 am :
Just reading the comments made me realise how many "script kiddies" and hacker "wannabes" read Phrack, good God there is no mercy.
fan, on January 31th 2009 at 8:51 am :
i guess it will be a summer issue on june 6.
matt, on January 2th 2009 at 5:37 am :
this magazine is very interesting, i no i might seem like a total r tard and all, but you guys are some of the most interesting poeple im trying 2 learn2 hack atm, i hope to become a network admin, and hacking has always interested me, im 1/3rd way though hacking for dummies, and im already confused, so any tips on how or w/e i doubt ill get feedback anyway because im ment to "learn it myself" but who knew its harder then you think ... well i hope all of you enjoy hacking, ill admit im jealous :D so cheer and happy new year, hit us back
eko, on December 24th 2008 at 4:26 am :
i really appreciated all your works, thanks for phrack
vinc3, on December 19th 2008 at 1:01 am :
Phrack the greatest
SomeOnE, on December 18th 2008 at 10:28 pm :
@ prec RighteousIndignation>
/
Back 2 fight?
/
Big Brother is laughing - but at the others who mess up with provocative and totally unstable elements. And one here is a some higher-up amongst Bros, as I understand from the latest revelations.
/
Chaos is really what will kill you amongst the first victims of being too self-confident. And - Anarchy is what opens up the archives of Big Brother. Must be very interesting. Ppl never know whos bulk of names may be found there.
/
And, of course, there are new posts at ID=2
/
No Code
/
Back 2 fight?
/
Big Brother is laughing - but at the others who mess up with provocative and totally unstable elements. And one here is a some higher-up amongst Bros, as I understand from the latest revelations.
/
Chaos is really what will kill you amongst the first victims of being too self-confident. And - Anarchy is what opens up the archives of Big Brother. Must be very interesting. Ppl never know whos bulk of names may be found there.
/
And, of course, there are new posts at ID=2
/
No Code
RighteousIndignation, on December 17th 2008 at 10:56 pm :
Anarchy and Chaos is the only true freedom.
Knowledge is your best tool.
Experience is your best teacher.
The application of knowledge gained by experience is wisdom.
Big Brother is watching. Nuke them security cameras. Voyeurism is a perversion.
Knowledge is your best tool.
Experience is your best teacher.
The application of knowledge gained by experience is wisdom.
Big Brother is watching. Nuke them security cameras. Voyeurism is a perversion.
SomeOnE, on November 30th 2008 at 8:14 am :
re prec msg:
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"We would like very much a winter issue !" -
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I definitely heard you say "We". Let's check for =TRUE!
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A space before xcl mark gives hope for live'n'kicking comments :-)
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Other languages - might Phrack have location administrators? Why English only?
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Also, why not to give space for bot-assisted posters? Especially if the topic is about anything on AI?
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Was nice to see you an my place tonight folks :-) Hope I'll never boot up a firewall - it kills.
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73
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"We would like very much a winter issue !" -
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I definitely heard you say "We". Let's check for =TRUE!
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A space before xcl mark gives hope for live'n'kicking comments :-)
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Other languages - might Phrack have location administrators? Why English only?
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Also, why not to give space for bot-assisted posters? Especially if the topic is about anything on AI?
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Was nice to see you an my place tonight folks :-) Hope I'll never boot up a firewall - it kills.
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73
Phrack staff, on November 29th 2008 at 7:03 am :
We would like very much a winter issue !
But unless we have a couple more articles arriving soon, it does not seem feasible..
Fire up your contributions !
-staff
But unless we have a couple more articles arriving soon, it does not seem feasible..
Fire up your contributions !
-staff
SomeOnE, on November 23th 2008 at 8:33 am :
re> jiwagno, on October 19th 2008 at 7:08 am
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Right... screen-clickers may wish to do some little harm, I'm still itching to hack "Hacking your brain: Artificial Conscience", a couple of comments are on air. Who knows how, drop a byte here [a call for help in violation of law? Or is it not on Phrack?]...
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P.S. There were no any abuse in comments... maybe, had some Scotts cargo staff complained? They shouldn't load missiles on board while fingering iPhones. Matter of security, also :-)
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Right... screen-clickers may wish to do some little harm, I'm still itching to hack "Hacking your brain: Artificial Conscience", a couple of comments are on air. Who knows how, drop a byte here [a call for help in violation of law? Or is it not on Phrack?]...
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P.S. There were no any abuse in comments... maybe, had some Scotts cargo staff complained? They shouldn't load missiles on board while fingering iPhones. Matter of security, also :-)
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73
t3chn0n3rd, on November 20th 2008 at 8:33 am :
Are you guys going to put a Winter 2008 issue out?
schizo, on October 22th 2008 at 10:14 pm :
I have just discovered your site, & must say that this is good reading!
As my knowledge is primarily old DOS (only been online via mobile since 2005), i'm thankful for your sharing of ideas & knowledge.
Thanx!
As my knowledge is primarily old DOS (only been online via mobile since 2005), i'm thankful for your sharing of ideas & knowledge.
Thanx!
jiwagno, on October 19th 2008 at 10:08 pm :
my friends,
we need an www that is entirely housed on home computers
we need to take the damn thing away from them
we need an www that is entirely housed on home computers
we need to take the damn thing away from them
new comer, on October 10th 2008 at 5:56 am :
hello'
I were a new comer in this "world" i don't know everything about hacking, cracking, phreacking,or else, but i want to learn it because I was interested about it and I hope this site can teach me to be a good hacker
I were a new comer in this "world" i don't know everything about hacking, cracking, phreacking,or else, but i want to learn it because I was interested about it and I hope this site can teach me to be a good hacker
agthekiller, on August 23th 2008 at 3:35 am :
thanks for this new phrack release !
aumnevergiveup, on August 12th 2008 at 7:53 am :
it doesn't matter you give a low-level or high-level hacking, I'm proud when you still bring the old spirit from "the ancestors"...
spread this all over the world.. thanks
spread this all over the world.. thanks
rEh3, on August 7th 2008 at 10:15 pm :
i have wasted the last 31 years. I wished that i could have had this direction and drive during my earlier years, but the passion i have now can not be contained. I am beginning into C++, Java, and others.....but I still have no understanding of whats what,and how now brown cow? Anyway appreciate the info you guys are giving, and although I do not understand what is being said at this time, I will show and give my support for helping me get to understanding.
<point> Blessed with intelligence, and cursed with potential </point>
<point> Blessed with intelligence, and cursed with potential </point>
TM, on August 3th 2008 at 4:08 pm :
Wonderful intro, Long Life Phrack.
The underground still breath!
The underground still breath!
Herr Shroti, on July 8th 2008 at 3:08 am :
Hello, everyone.
I am new to this area, and truly wish to begin with both hacking and penetration testing. Is there anyone who might point me in a good direction, or give some advice? (Apart from reading phrack, still the best)
Regards, Herr Shroti
I am new to this area, and truly wish to begin with both hacking and penetration testing. Is there anyone who might point me in a good direction, or give some advice? (Apart from reading phrack, still the best)
Regards, Herr Shroti
miniBill, on June 27th 2008 at 2:20 pm :
I just entered you site, which I didn't know.
I hope I'll enjoy it.
If the underground hearth is slower, that's also caused by the easiness of the new operating systems.
You can use Windows and learn nothing.
You can't use Slackware without learning at least something.
I remember the first time I started up my Slack after install, and got no GUI.
You must learn to use it, but every second you spend for learning will be hours you'll be in advance.
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My name is Legion, for we are many.
I hope I'll enjoy it.
If the underground hearth is slower, that's also caused by the easiness of the new operating systems.
You can use Windows and learn nothing.
You can't use Slackware without learning at least something.
I remember the first time I started up my Slack after install, and got no GUI.
You must learn to use it, but every second you spend for learning will be hours you'll be in advance.
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My name is Legion, for we are many.
Ruco, on May 21th 2008 at 10:30 am :
Gee, I miss the phrack loopback
N00BKiddie, on May 20th 2008 at 5:43 am :
I recently come in to this site, and wonder one thing:
Is this site n00b friendly?
Is this site n00b friendly?